Cranswick Genealogy from the Web
(With some corrections from Cecil Cranswick)
(Link passed on by Barry Johnston (28th Jan 2007) to Names List of Rhodesians Worldwide - C)
Subject: Cranswick Genealogy
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:54:29 +0200
Dear Lachlan
I am the son of Arthur Noel, born 1924 & living in Bulawayo Zimbabwe. I'm
not on Internet but 2 of my sons are & one sent me your personal home page
knowing that I know a fair amount of the above subject.
I think you are the 3rd son (1968?) of Rodney & Mary, the others being Noel
(1963) & Rupert (1964).
You are wrong in thinking James Mosey your greatgrandfather; he is your
greatgreatgrandfather. He had 2 sons & 4 daughters, the eldest Edward was a
Canon of Sydney Cathedral, 2 of whose sons became Bishops, one of Gippsland
& the other of Tasmania. The next was William Franceys, my grandfather &
your greatgrandfather, who had 7 sons & 4 daughters:-
Wilfred 1882, your grandfather
Ella 1883
Lilian 1884, died a baby
Cecil 1886
Gerald 1888
Eric 1889?, died a baby
Noel 1891, my father
Harold 1893, Canon
Margery 1895
Rupert 1896 or 7, Canon
Helen 1899?
I can give you details of all their offspring if you want it, & a lot
before James Mosey!
I was very interested in the origins of our name. I had heard about de
Crauncewyk ( & variations) before but never about the 3 Crans. Another
story is that there was a big Cranstoun or Cranston clan in Northumberland
who were border robbers preying on the Scots. Following a split in the clan
one half decided to become honest, changed their name to Cranswick & moved
to Yorkshire! This might account for our terrible family motto: "Thou
shalt want ere I"
Do you know anything about the Cranswick Smith winery in Australia?
Kind regards & best wishes Cecil
From: "Ken Holmes"
To: "Lachlan Cranswick" [lachlan@ldeo.columbia.edu]
Subject: Re: Cranswicks
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:04:13 -0000
Hi Lachlan,
Using the flimsy information that you have given me it would appear that we
are 7th cousins!!!
All descended from John Cranswick born circa 1689 in Hutton Cranswick !!
Cheers ,
Ken.
From: "Mr C.A Cranswick"
To: "Ken Holmes"
Cc: "Lachlan Cranswick" [Lachlan@melbpc.org.au]
Subject: Re Cranswicks
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 15:06:53 +0200
Dear Ken
I haven't heard of William Allerston & Mary C; but I'll tell you what I
know of my branch in Southern Africa. For Lachlan's benefit I'll start way
back with Matthew Cranswick, born in Burton Agnes, East Riding of
Yorkshire, a village or town between Hutton Cranswick & Bridlington, who
died in 1852 having sired 5 sons & 3 daughters. The eldest son, also
Matthew, was a Wesleyan Minister who died in Eastbourne in 1873, having had
2 sons & 3 daughters, the eldest of these being James Mosey Cranswick, also
a Wesleyan Minister who converted to C of E & became Rector of Stalybridge
in Lancashire. He had 2 sons & 4 daughters in that order; the 2nd son,
William Franceys, came to South Africa as a young man where he settled in
Kimberley & married a South African lass, Emma Willey. Apart from 1
daughter & 1 son who died as very small babies, they had 6 sons & 3
daughters. Of these the eldest, Wilfred (Lachlan's Grandfather), went to
Australia as a young man; the other 5 sons & 3 daughters all lived in
either South Africa or what was then Southern Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe. They
all married ( one of them, Noel, was my Father ) & had children -- I won't
give you details unless you want them. (Lachlan, do you want them?)
There may be a few other Cranswicks in SA; apart from one I came across in
Pietermaritzburg a few years ago who had come out from Yorkshire I am not
aware of any.
I hope I have given you what you wanted to know!
Kind regards Cecil
> From: Ken Holmes
> To: Mr C.A Cranswick
> Subject: Re: Re Cranswicks
> Date: Monday, March 26, 2001 5:35 PM
>
> Dear Cecil,
>
> Thank you for the information you have given me. I have added it to my
> family tree programme and according to that we are 6th cousins once
> removed!!!
>
> We are both descended from the marriage of John Cranswick and Elizabeth
> Braidley in 1718. I am descended from their 2nd son, Thomas born 1722,
> and you from the 5th son Matthew bapt. March 1732.
>
> The Cranswicks you met in Pietermaritzburg are the descendants of William
> Allerston and Mary Ann Cranswick who sailed from the UK in 1849. I am in
> touch with a Pat Frykberg a descendent of the family, who now lives
> in new Zealand.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Regards,
>
> Ken.
From: "Mr C.A Cranswick"
To: "Ken Holmes"
Cc: "Lachlan Cranswick" [Lachlan@melbpc.org.au]
Subject: More Cranswicks
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:53:15 +0200
Dear Ken
Thanks for yours of 26th; again very interesting.
You say I am descended from John's son Matthew baptised 1732; would he be
the father of the Matthew born Burton Agnes I started my last message with?
I would be glad to have all the offspring of John & Elizabeth Braidley
when you have time -- no hurry!
I have a huge bit of Cranswick tree which someone did in ink & must have
given to my father, which is headed by "CRANSWICK OF BURTON AGNES m
EGORDS". Unfortunately it doesn't give the first name nor does it explain
the EGORDS which doesn't sound like a name. I guess that this Cranswick
may be a brother of "my" Matthew of Burton Agnes. I don't suppose you can
throw any light on this?
All the best Cecil
From: "Mr Cecil Cranswick"
To: "Lachlan Cranswick" Lachlan@melbpc.org.au
Subject: Descendants of William Franceys (b 1882) & Emma Cranswick
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:20:06 +0200
Lachlan please correct me over the Australian branch; the rest are
accurate.
1) Wilfred (b 1882) d -Elsie Mansey
a)Rodney d -Mary Prendergast
1.Noel-Marian
a.Bernadette
b.Rodney
2.Rupert-Angela
a.Luke Kevin
3.Lachlan
b)Dudley-Helen Skelly
1.Peter-Joss
a.Leon
b.Charles
c.Edward
2.Hilary
3.Anthony
2)Ella d-Richard Johnson d
a)Theodora- George Kyle d
1.Alistair-Andrea div -Brenda
a.Anthony a.Jonathan
b.Alexis
b)Mariquita d
c)Charles-Pat d
1.Paul-Adrienne
2.John-Marguerite
a.Richard
b.Louise
3.Elizabeth
3)Cecil d-Eileen Dodds d
a)Shirley-Allan Yell
1.Richard
2.Loraine-Steven div
a.Kirsten
b.Justin
3.William-Theresa
a.Alexandra
b)Cecily d -Edouard Montocchio d -Mike d'Udy div -Lorraine du Preez d
-Tony Kirkaldy
1.Francis-Ilsa
a.Clara
b.Maxim
c.Gerard
2.Pierre
4)Gerald d-Marjorie Cartwright d
a)Geoffrey d -Mary Holmes
1.Janet -Mervyn
a.Melanie
b.Cindy
2.Camilla -David div -Terry
a.Kirstie
b)David -Ann div -Morag div
1.Jeremy -Brenda
a.Rigby
b.Calo Ann
2.Anthony -Shayne
a.Shane
b.Tanniel
3.Susan -Robin
a.Nicole
b.Guy
c.Lucy
c)Marian -David Dacomb d
1.Keith
2.Tessa -Blair
a.Robyn
5) Noel -Gwendolen Speyer
a)Cecil -Lucienne Xantho d
1.Suzanne d
2.Denise -Karl div -Stephen
a.Heidi a.Luke
b.Timothy
3.Simon -Angela
a.Byron
b.Georgette
4.Adrian
5.John -Gillian
b)Beryl -Raymond Banks
1.Antoinette -Jonathan
a.Andrew
b.Ryan
2.Julian -Laura
a.Alexandra
b.Chantal
3.Jeremy -Margaret
a.Emma
6)Canon Harold d -Pauline van Niekerk d
a)Valentine -Michael Harvey div
1.Deborah -John
a.Samantha
b.Bryan
7)Margery d -Theodore Bourdillon d
a)Lynette d -Neil Welch div
1.Janine -Sean Graves
2.Bruce -Michelle Bailey
a.Jacquie
b)Denis d -Angela Dunlop
1.Robert -Shannon
a.Andrew
b.Bridget
2.Timothy -Beverley
a.Nicola
3.Juliet
c)Gerard -Catherine
1.Mark -Jane
a.Amber
2.Karen
8)Canon Rupert d -Kathleen Hazelhurst d
a)Loraine -Kenneth Cripwell d
1.Ruth -Adrian Jones
a.Nathalie
2.Helen
b)Philip d -Shirley Norvall div
1.Stuart -Sally
a.Luke
b.Dylan
2.Leigh -Gavin
a.Emily
3.Andrew -Cindy
a.Kira
b.Tyla
4.Mason
5.Tara
9)Helen -Douglas Devine d
a)Fiona -Jack Bell div
1.Sean -Freda
a. Deven Sean
b.Warren
b)Valerie -Christopher Dunn div
1.Sebastian -Jane
a.David
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:00:48 +0100
Subject: The cranswick Clan!
From: Francis Montocchio
To: [Lachlan@melbpc.org.au]
Hi Lachlan
My name is Francis Montocchio, son of the late Cecily Margaret Kirkaldy (neé
Cranswick), daughter of Cecil "Flea" and Margaret (neé Dodds) Cranswick..
I thought you might like some info to update your family tree.
My wife (Ilse neé Schumann) and I have 4 children now: Clara, Max, Gerard
and Michelle.
We live in Vienna, Austria.
Have a look at my son, Gerard's, website at:
http://www.members.aon.at/gegi
There are some photos.
Please contact me if there is anything else you would like to know, or if
you'd like pictures or whatever.
Francis
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:45:28 +0100
Subject: Re: The cranswick Clan!
From: Francis Montocchio
To: LACHLAN CRANSWICK [lachlan@ldeo.columbia.edu]
Hi Lachlan
Just a quick erratum:
My grandmother, Cecil Cranswick's wife, was not Margaret
as I wrote in my mail, but Eileen.
Francis
Very belated putt on website - 28th April 2008 (due to older Email addresses
being defunct due to SPAM)
From: alexandopholous Cranberry Sauce
To: Lachlan@melbpc.org.au
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:58 AM
Subject: Hutton Cranswick and the winery
Hello Lachlan,
Thankyou for your most informative website.
I am a great great grandson of Edward Cranswick, the Canon of Sydney
(mentioned on the website), whose 2 sons were Bishop of Gippsland and
Bishop of Tasmania. The 3rd son, Hugh, was my great grandfather.
My grandfather, George Noel Harvard Cranswick would be happy to answer
any questions on this side of the family tree.
My wife and I are planning a visit to Hutton Cranswick in Yorkshire
shortly, and we were wondering if any Cranswicks had any errands they
would like us to run, curiosities to investigate and report on, or
specific photos to take and send to you...
Please post this on your website.
By the way, the Cranswick-Smith winery in Australia was set up by my
father who bought a winery from Cinzano and used it to produce table
wine. The company has now been bought out by a larger Australian winery,
and the only remaining bottles of Cranswick wine are to be found in a
small chain of pubs in London.
I'm sorry I didn't see your site 5 years ago, and I do hope you are
keeping it live.
Kind regards,
Alastair Cranswick-Smith
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